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Buzz Orti
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Posted - 2015.12.11 19:24:23 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:Well... Without PVE industry, the PVP would cease to be.
Cannot pee pew if no one makes the ammo.
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Market PvP does exist.
There is much less items available without hauling, and manufacturing.
Mission provides some items for PvP as well.
There is more than one way to PvP. |
Buzz Orti
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Posted - 2015.12.11 20:59:28 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:Buzz Orti wrote:Captain Tardbar wrote:Well... Without PVE industry, the PVP would cease to be.
Cannot pee pew if no one makes the ammo.
... Market PvP does exist. There is much less items available without hauling, and manufacturing. Mission provides some items for PvP as well. There is more than one way to PvP. Well I suppose markets are somewhat PVP, but no one posts kill mails about their wallet flashing. Calling station traders elite PVPers would anger a few persons on here anyways.
Let's say for Market PvP you were to post in the Market Discussion forums.
I pay mercenaries 200b to destroy you.
That is market PvP.
Other examples are, you post in the market certain sell order, and I buy one of your item to get your name.
I send mercs after you, or spies to scout your structures were you build stuff for sale, such as drug boosters.
Market PvP 2, although less than 200b. |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
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Posted - 2015.12.11 21:11:09 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Buzz Orti wrote:Let's say for Market PvP you were to post in the Market Discussion forums.
I pay mercenaries 200b to destroy you.
That is market PvP.
Other examples are, you post in the market certain sell order, and I buy one of your item to get your name.
I send mercs after you, or spies to scout your structures were you build stuff for sale, such as drug boosters.
Market PvP 2, although less than 200b. Out of curiosity, how would mercenaries kill a trader? There's literally nothing you can do to someone that doesn't undock and has half a clue how the market works.
Killing is one way to PvP, but if the manufacturer never undocks, he cannot be killed.
The other options are to control the market buy buying items (all) and to deny potential profit.
However, mercenaries can kill traders who haul items and make them lose collaterals.
Destroying POS also works great against drug booster production.
This is about to change with citadels. |
Buzz Orti
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Posted - 2015.12.11 21:24:53 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Out of curiosity, how would mercenaries kill a trader? There's literally nothing you can do to someone that doesn't undock and has half a clue how the market works.
Mmmh yeah, and poster's making suggestions that are not unprofitable instead of developing time management systems to avoid to waste other's time.
That could also be a Market PvP although it also goes out of EVE. |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.12.12 20:57:01 -
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Markus Reese wrote:Top Guac wrote:Wasn't Market McSelling Alt only a few pages back claiming that we were hitting critical levels of decline and that Valkyrie is going to be a failure?
Pretty much someone that's it's safe to ignore.
He gets the Daily Quac award though for James Beam levels of BS. over 33K on right now! Point out that when I started eve, a saturday afternoon never was that high. There are fewer alts in eve too. Lets keep up the good work and keep on communicating with CCP to make this game phenominal. At this time, we really ought to not think of this as a game, but right back at early access. Recent development and player communication initiatives all follow a proper kickstarter/early access configuration!
over 33k player accounts logged online ?
I saw over 19k last time. |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.12.14 15:26:58 -
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Otso Bakarti wrote:Surely we can pump this thing up to 3,000! Let's put those brains together and see if we can come up
with a hemisphere!
I rather have one good posts that solves all the problem than 3000 trying to solve a problem, which leads to finding out that it didn't solve the problem while the same problem was then caused to be more problematic.
Now, let's verify a few factors.
1st.
Is the Decline in numbers a problem?
2nd.
Is the starting to turn into RAPID effect normal given the circumstances or to be expected.
3rd.
What are the best solutions.
4th.
How to implement those solutions, or, how to actually solve the potential problem with one of those conditions or a combination of those solutions components...
As for the First point,
Is the Decline in numbers a problem?
I really do wonder, because as CCP mentioned (or pointed out) , the decline in numbers wasn't so much a decline in player numbers , but more of a decline in player accounts number being logged in .
Now, that may or may not include inactive accounts, as an inactive account doesn't have to be logged in to exist.
Also, there are many more variation related to the fact that certain numbers are declining.
To me, when I read this, I thought that the number that was declining was the number of logged in player accounts.
I remember when I started playing in 2012 that the average number was 33k or so, at least 29k .
Some day, it went up to over 44k if I remember correctly.
Again, as for decline in number perhaps not being a potential problem or even, perhaps presenting an opportunity instead of simply not being a problem, or not presenting an opportunity, I again I'm not sure.
What if, say, those players were busy testing new waters for the EVE Online systems?
How many players worked on the EVE Valkyrie project, or even the other one with the turret gunner?
That may or may not account for a change in apparent displayed numbers.
Secondly,
The turning into rapid effect.
I would expect a certain amount of this to occur in any MMO.
Of course that can be controlled to be modified but the players choice still has a lot to do in that control percentage.
I am pretty sure that the number of player accounts logged in is related to the decision of players to log in.
They need to be able to acquire PLEx to get more game time (if they have the time for it),
or get covered game time for it otherwise.
I remember one other MMO last days where the numbers were much lesser than this game...
Of course, the life cycle of the system was already designed to end at that time though.
So their decline in numbers was not to be interpreted in the same way due to some different factors involved.
I think those numbers were player made, and when the source of those numbers decide the change, the output can be directly related.
It wasn't directly related in the sense that the numbers of players change, but the number of logged in player accounts was changed from the same source (at least partly so, since CCP keeps all rights in regards to their IP). |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.12.14 15:49:59 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Hey Buzz!
You need to include banning of isboxing and MCT into your thinking as well.
Some like to omit this for personal reasons.
I didn't think about it, whether it was omitted or not.
And perhaps less RMT too, which should be better in fact.
I never used isboxing although I saw videos on youtube or twitch of how it would work (perhaps on test servers , but still).
Also, I think the rapid effect is meant to be interpreted as ... (one more poster posted...) |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
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Posted - 2015.12.14 17:18:08 -
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Searching for PCU, I found, EVE Online smashes PCU record during anniversary celebrations
Peak Concurrent User(s)
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replacing 2011's record of 63,170 with a new figure of 65,303 players logged in simultaneously.
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MCT , Multiple -Character Training , doesn't allow to have those characters logged in at the same time.
Online one pilot per account can be logged in at the same time,
Additionally, only one trial account can be logged in at any time , and not while an activated account is logged in.
Multiple Activated Accounts can be logged in at the same time, but there are hardware processing limitation.
Multi-boxing can help to lessen the strain on hardware requirement, however, then the strain on the internet connection bandwidth occurs.
[SWG didn't allow to automate player accounts, but it had a way to code for automated processes to manufacture items.
I have never used those code, although that I could have tested them and programmed with them.
This would have allowed me to literally make droid factories as well as pretty much all of the other 3 types of manufacturing (architectural buildings; domestic food, drink and clothes, and armor and ammo).
There were other legal ways to create macros which would automate other functions of the game,
I again only used 2 or 3 extremely simple one.
The reason being, I wanted to test how much work I could do without those more automated systems.] |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
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Posted - 2015.12.19 15:50:13 -
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Should we make a schedule for when we plan to be able to read this? |
Buzz Orti
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Posted - 2015.12.19 18:22:01 -
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lost packet wrote:Buzz Orti wrote:Should we make a schedule for when we plan to be able to read this? Someone could turn it in to a book?
Or a periodical. |
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Buzz Orti
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Posted - 2015.12.27 22:27:11 -
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Came in the thread for the numbers of ships in Deklein per minutes, and at which minutes, and left with the data on my second tablet (same model, same price). |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.12.27 23:23:53 -
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King Aires wrote:...
My problem with Eve and why I think it is dying is the homogenization of sov sec and power creep in pvp.
0.0 has nothing to fight over because every system can be upgraded, moons are not nearly as important and true sec doesn't matter because belt ratting is dead.
... Also the price of things have dropped and isk is so easy to come by (thanks plex), that losing a ship doesn't "hurt" anymore. Only real reason anymore to not fly shinny ships is to keep your killboard positive.
... not all viewpoints on this game are ganker vs. gankee.
My problem is not being able to test sov space with a decent opportunity due to boycott, or blockades...
Not every one like this style of marginalizing competition.
Of course, there are many legal worthwhile and ingenious ways to fight this, but consider that having a network of 10+ intelligence personnel and mercenaries is not all cookie cutter.
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Buzz Orti
State War Academy
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Posted - 2015.12.29 18:34:38 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Buzz Orti wrote:My problem is not being able to test sov space with a decent opportunity due to boycott, or blockades... Hmm, have you tested a sov laser before? It's too late to use an interceptor, but there are alternatives you might find an interesting experience...
I went to Sov Space and managed to go with a interceptor .
Never tried sov laser or entosis link before.
What I meant is that I could never benefit from any of the POS in null-sec.
I always thought that POS could only be anchored in null-sec, and never tried one in High-sec (or low sec, or WH) yet. |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
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Posted - 2015.12.29 19:57:00 -
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On 2nd thought the problem is even more of an internet problem than other, since the hardware requirement part has been solved.
Now, I also have an even better second video card with some 2 GB or 4 GB VRAM.
It would work perfect even on a $100 Dual or Quad Core (CPU) laptop, with 2 GB or 4 GB RAM, external laptop video card adapter (fork a few more bucks).
That laptop is more than 97% likely to have a wifi modem integrated internally, which would let me log in to do market trading.
However, that won't be enough internet power to play worthwhile yet, but that will be easy. |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.12.29 20:06:13 -
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Malcanis wrote:...
CCP have been trying to create other games than EVE since at least 2008, when the Dust project started. No company wants to be reliant on selling a single product, and CCP are going to keep trying to create new games for as long as they're able to.
+ The CCP card game ...
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Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.12.29 23:32:26 -
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You got to admit that you will need more monkeys to pedal , so to generate more energies for the server to keep running. |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.12.31 22:39:38 -
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Solecist Project wrote:
Well and I have only two days left and nothing of interest came to my mind for the last month.
I can now fly a Sabre, but **** if I knew what I should do with it.
Ah well, was a nice month. :p
Had the sabre for over a year now, and still didn't stab customers with it yet, though I may have lost a few.
Nothing better to sit on a gate to miss ships going by , except the ones which are too powerful. |
Buzz Orti
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Posted - 2015.12.31 22:57:16 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Buzz Orti wrote:Solecist Project wrote:
Well and I have only two days left and nothing of interest came to my mind for the last month.
I can now fly a Sabre, but **** if I knew what I should do with it.
Ah well, was a nice month. :p
Had the sabre for over a year now, and still didn't stab customers with it yet, though I may have lost a few. Nothing better to sit on a gate to miss ships going by , except the ones which are too powerful. What the **** is the point of sitting at a gate like an idiot, waiting for ships to come by, in the hopes that a few of them are easy enough to kill. That's ******* worthless!
I probably lost the sabre in FW, I could verify in kill mail. |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.12.31 23:18:58 -
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Jaed Gogiko | Sabre killmail
falling down into RAPID!!! in reverse at the 6th minute. |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
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Posted - 2015.12.31 23:36:33 -
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I only lost one sabre going to null-sec in low sec but I had no Blop then...
The 2nd epic fail video has a red truck that looks like a Nuka-Cola truck. |
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Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.12.31 23:48:24 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Buzz Orti wrote:I only lost one sabre going to null-sec in low sec but I had no Blop then...
The 2nd epic fail video has a red truck that looks like a Nuka-Cola truck. Yeah but WHY did you want to show me this? xD I mean no offense, honestly, but why?? Getting amused here. ^_^ Also, my portrait doesn't update. pfffft.
The reason is because I lost one and there is the proof of how.
Also, why should I show it to you and not to the thread?
I could have EVE Mailed it to you but didn't .
Also, when will SP trading work?
Since it may affect RAPID numbers... |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.01 16:08:07 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Malcanis wrote:I think you missed his point there. Enlighten me  What Solstice meant is that something doesn't become more fun because it makes more money. It's a silly logic many people use stating that doing lvl 4 is more fun than doing lvl 1 missions, no they're exactly the same just with bigger and slower ships. Something is either fun/entertaining or not regardless of it making money, it is not a deciding factor. In this case the stationary & reactionary play style that is gate camping is boring to some people no matter how much drops, because they want a proactive pay style where they take the initiative instead of hoping someone else chooses to do something that suits the scenario.
It's easy to see the difference between a game with 100k players mmo and 250k compared to solo to avoid unfair ban.
Btw, what do they do to those making false claims of ban worthy offense in the hope of pvp or is it part of the game?
Since most mmos rely on telcom of internet signal to interact, any refusal of this telcom leaves player solo.
Most of the time, 95% + now, I find that trying to join others only lead to delays and interferes against my 3rd party programming time.
Of course I'm 48 years old which makes it different for me in my goals to play than what 13 years old goal at entertainment are.
I don't even have time for most people in their 20s.
I don't think that age is important however, and to make age related corps or groups is not the solution.
This in fact would lead to more complication rather than to ease conditions.
In the scheme of things related to EVE Online, it may be useful to compare it to other MMOs.
I don't suscribe to MMORPG since RPG are more oriented to acting, as in a theatrical performance aiming at representing conditions.
I'm more into the scientific reactions between people which brings them together, without faking make believe.
Financial factors matter to the extent that servers cannot be run without resources, be it financial, security or other.
For that reason, running the game with free to play players may reduce the capacity to get more players (active or deactivated/inactive).
I could present this model with diagrams and I probably will + copyright it to avoid discrediting. |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.01 16:21:34 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:Your post makes no sense whatsoever.
It's thanks to people like you that I copyright my work in other countries.
I should look into getting agents for those at war.
It can also be less alienating.
In fact, I will probably be less active ingame and more on 3rd party programs.
I also have to look at health services elsewhere because it could hardly be healthy enough for me.
I have to apply to work security since potential attacks makes it more worthwhile and have to pass health tests.
Solecist Project wrote:... Thanks. :)
...
Maybe Buzz got the topic confused...
Could be something something wrong... |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.01 16:32:19 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:You seem to have completely lost the plot, perhaps CCP has a job for you.
I am applying to go to Iceland as refugee but most likely will go to Germany.
I could apply for work but due to having only experience for myself in 20 years, I find that protecting my work prevails.
I'm currently in litigation with this and have no news from any CCP lawyers for work offers or any other business entities.
I am however offered government works for intelligence. |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.01 16:45:45 -
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sero Hita wrote:1. This is really not to be rude but
2. are you using google translate or is this some kind of meta thing?
3. I really don't understand what you write.
4. I might be able to infer some of the overall meaning, but some of the words seem out of place, like when using google translate.
1. ??? is it worst or better? any proof to back your statement? or is this an intelligence trust or mutual fund thing?
2. neither, but I can see the attempt at diversion
3. I could investigate this to make sure to what level of it you do and don't.
4. I just wrote that I will be moving out of the place. |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.01 18:38:32 -
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Thanks for offering me to post in your channel forum for the last few years
but I prefer using a proxy forum poster to avoid being forced into a second marriage or more, or worst...
I may even have to study more health science + security if there is enough damage and counter the negative effects and hidden intentions.
This should be my last post on this channel forum.
New Eden years resolution.
Hopefully , your numbers increase as you wish by not including me in, even though that makes no sense. |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.01 18:47:36 -
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double post, internet shut down |
Buzz Orti
State War Academy
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Posted - 2016.01.25 11:38:16 -
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Good news is, I managed to add time from my tablet using free wifi at McDo.
I don't know if my trader still has skills to train in his skill queue but I'll also be able to check from EVE Gate instead of having to log in to the client.
I can still check on EVEBoard but it will take a few minutes to clear the cache (for the updated data to backtrack).
On an alternate note, I am going in the test forum to post an audio recording of a forum post to convey the tone better (with open-end captioning).
+1
btw, if you used to sniped your own order in Jita within 5 minutes can hardly count as a Rabbit decline of rapid numbers... |
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